Upper Piney and Knee Knocker Saddle Trail

This trail is rated as difficult. While the initial section of the Upper Piney River Trail starts relatively easy, the path beyond the waterfall becomes significantly steeper, less distinct, and more challenging as it approaches Upper Piney Lake and Knee Knocker Pass. Expect very steep sections, loose talus, and potentially snowfields at higher elevations.

The terrain is highly varied. You'll traverse open meadows, dense aspen groves, and cool pine forests. As you ascend, the trail can become overgrown, requiring navigation around downed trees or muddy sections. Higher up, expect steep switchbacks, loose talus, and potentially snowfields in alpine basins. The path to Knee Knocker Pass involves a climber's trail that is less maintained.

The trail offers stunning views throughout. You'll pass through fields of wildflowers, vibrant aspen groves, and shady pines. Key highlights include views of Piney Lake, the towering Mt. Powell, and a beautiful cascading waterfall. As you gain elevation, you'll be treated to iconic vistas of the Vail Valley, the Gore Range, and the Rocky Mountains, eventually reaching high alpine basins.

Yes, dogs are generally allowed on this trail. However, as it is located within the Eagles Nest Wilderness, all dogs must be kept on a leash to protect wildlife and ensure a positive experience for all visitors. Be prepared for challenging terrain that might be difficult for some dogs.

The best time to hike is typically from late spring through early fall. Summer offers vibrant wildflowers and generally clear conditions, while fall provides spectacular colors in the aspen groves. Be aware that snow can persist at higher elevations well into summer, and conditions can change rapidly.

As of current regulations, there are no specific permits or entrance fees required for day hiking the Upper Piney and Knee Knocker Saddle Trail within the Eagles Nest Wilderness. However, it's always wise to check the latest regulations on the USDA Forest Service website, especially if planning an overnight trip, as wilderness regulations can change.

The trail typically starts from the Piney Lake Trailhead, which is accessible via a dirt road. Parking is available at the trailhead, but it can fill up quickly, especially on weekends during peak season. Arriving early is highly recommended to secure a spot.

No, the Upper Piney and Knee Knocker Saddle Trail is generally not suitable for beginners or young children, especially beyond the initial three miles to the waterfall. The trail is rated difficult due to its significant elevation gain, steep sections, and challenging terrain. For a more family-friendly option, consider hiking only the first few miles of the Upper Piney River Trail to the waterfall and returning.

The area is rich in wildlife. Hikers frequently spot moose, deer, and various bird species like eagles. Keep an eye out for smaller mammals such as marmots and foxes. While less common, bears are also present in the wilderness, so proper food storage and awareness are essential.

Yes, the route primarily follows sections of the Upper Piney - 1885 trail. It also includes portions of the Knee Knocker Saddle Trail, and briefly touches on the Soda Lakes Trail - 1889 and the Upper Piney Lake Trail. The Upper Piney River Trail, which forms the initial part of this hike, is a gateway to other peaks in the Gore Range.

Given the trail's difficulty and remote nature, essential gear includes sturdy hiking boots, plenty of water, high-energy snacks, layers of clothing for changing weather, rain gear, sun protection, a map and compass or GPS device, and a first-aid kit. Trekking poles are highly recommended for the steep and uneven terrain.