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Venable-Comanche Trail loop

Hard

2.9

(6)

52

runners

Venable-Comanche Trail loop

02:42

19.6km

1,160m

Running

Embark on the Venable-Comanche Trail loop, a difficult jogging route spanning 12.2 miles (19.6 km) with a significant 3805 feet (1160 metres) of elevation gain. This high-alpine trek, estimated to take 2 hours and 41 minutes, leads you through dense pine forests and vibrant wildflower meadows before ascending above the treeline. You will encounter the impressive multi-tiered Venable Falls and pristine alpine Venable Lakes, culminating at the beautiful Comanche Lake, offering a truly demanding and rewarding experience.

Planning your visit is key for this challenging route, which is best enjoyed during summer and early fall; snow typically covers the higher elevations from November through spring. Be prepared for varied and demanding terrain, including rocky creek beds and steep ascents. The Phantom Terrace, a narrow and exposed ledge, requires mental fortitude, while the Comanche side features loose rock and a steep grade on the descent, adding to the physical demands of the high altitude.

This loop is set within the rugged Sangre de Cristo Wilderness, known for its dramatic landscapes and high-altitude environments. The trail's unique features, such as the series of alpine lakes and the panoramic views from the Phantom Terrace, make it a standout option for experienced and well-prepared trail runners. It offers a deep immersion into a remote mountain setting, showcasing the raw beauty of the Colorado Rockies.

Last updated: April 23, 2026

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Includes a segment that may be dangerous

A part of this route comprises technical, difficult, or hazardous terrain. Specialist equipment and prior experience may be required.

After 6.19 km for 343 m

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6.31 km

Comanche Lake

Highlight • Lake

Comanche Lake is a beautiful alpine lake in San Isabel National Forest. The trail to the lake is short, but can be rocky and steep; hiking poles are recommended to get down from the lake. Coming from Venable trail, you need to cross Phantom Terrace, a small ledge that connects the Comanche trail to Venable trail, this part seems to be more sketchy than it really is, you just need to have caution. The trail is better experienced between May and October due to snow and muddy conditions.

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11.9 km

Venable Lakes

Highlight (Segment) • Lake

Close to Venable Trail, there's a short steadily steep trail to Venable Lakes, a group of small alpine lakes with fantastic views of Rio Grande National Forest.

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15.8 km

Venable Falls

Highlight • Waterfall

Venable Falls is a 30 ft waterfall tumbling down at least three tiers, the river flowing between ferns and pines. An amazing place to have some quiet time while enjoying the surroundings. While walking to Venable Trail, you can see how the valley was eroded due to intense power of water over time.

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19.6 km

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18.7 km

555 m

348 m

< 100 m

Surfaces

10.7 km

8.02 km

555 m

348 m

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Frequently Asked Questions

How long does it typically take to complete this loop?

While experienced trail runners might complete the 19.6 km (12.2-mile) loop in under 3 hours, most hikers or joggers should plan for a significantly longer duration. Given the difficult terrain, over 1,100 meters (4,000 feet) of elevation gain, and high altitude, a more realistic timeframe for a challenging jog or fast hike is 6-10 hours, allowing time to enjoy the views and navigate technical sections safely.

Is this trail suitable for beginners?

No, this loop is considered difficult and is not recommended for beginners, especially for jogging. It features significant elevation gain, high altitude (up to 12,700 feet), and challenging terrain including steep climbs, loose rock, and an exposed section called the Phantom Terrace. It's best suited for experienced hikers and trail runners who are well-prepared for strenuous high-alpine conditions.

Where does the trail start, and is there parking available?

The loop typically starts from the Venable-Comanche Trailhead. Parking is available at the trailhead, though it can fill up quickly during peak season. It's advisable to arrive early, especially on weekends, to secure a spot.

What is the best time of year to visit the Venable-Comanche Trail loop?

The best time to visit is during the summer and early fall, generally from late June through September. During these months, the snow has usually melted from the higher elevations, and the weather is more favorable. Snow can cover the higher reaches from November through spring, making the trail impassable or significantly more challenging.

What kind of terrain can I expect on the route?

The terrain is highly varied and demanding. You'll encounter dense pine forests and wildflower meadows at lower elevations, transitioning to rocky creek beds, switchbacks, and exposed sections above the treeline. A notable feature is the Phantom Terrace, a narrow, rocky ledge that requires careful foot placement due to exposure. The Comanche side, particularly on the descent, is known for loose rock and steep grades.

What are the main points of interest along the loop?

The loop offers continuous stunning scenery. Highlights include the multi-tiered Venable Falls, the pristine alpine Venable Lakes, and the beautiful Comanche Lake. From higher elevations, especially the Phantom Terrace, you'll get panoramic views of the surrounding peaks, the Wet Mountain Valley, and distant ranchland.

Does the trail intersect other well-known paths?

Yes, the route primarily follows the Comanche Trail and the Venable Trail. It also passes through sections of the Rainbow Trail (FS1336) and the Phantom Terrace Trail.

Is the Venable-Comanche Trail loop dog-friendly?

Yes, dogs are generally allowed on this trail within the Sangre de Cristo Wilderness. However, they must be kept on a leash to protect wildlife and ensure a pleasant experience for all trail users. Always practice Leave No Trace principles, including packing out all pet waste.

Do I need a permit or is there an entrance fee for this wilderness area?

As of current information, there is no specific permit required or entrance fee to hike or jog the Venable-Comanche Trail loop within the Sangre de Cristo Wilderness. However, always check with the local Forest Service office for any updated regulations or fire restrictions before your trip.

What's an insider tip for tackling this challenging loop?

Many experienced hikers recommend starting the loop on the Venable Lake Trail side and descending via the Comanche Lake Trail. The Comanche side has a steeper initial climb, so tackling it as a descent can be less strenuous on the knees and potentially safer due to the loose rock. This approach also allows you to experience the Phantom Terrace earlier in your journey.

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